GC1QY6D Traditional Cache RM ORS #14-02 Rock Garden
Type: Traditional | Size: Regular Regular | Difficulty: 2 out of 5 | Terrain: 4 out of 5
By: Team Red Rubicon @ | Hide Date: 05/02/2009 | Status: Available
Country: United States | State: Colorado
Coordinates: N38° 47.688 W106° 04.854 | Last updated: 08/30/2019 | Fav points: 0
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Rocky Mountain (RM) Off Road Series (ORS) #14: Chinaman Gulch
A series by Team Red Rubicon members: RocketMan, zoltig, taylorsgeotracker, Red Ruby, Mountain Roamer, n0wae, QueenZelda & Cub Boy, and jpit .

This cache is the second of seven in the #14 series of Rocky Mountain off-road caches located along the difficult Chinaman Gulch Trail. The Chinaman Gulch Trail starts out just south-east of Buena Vista. This trail is somewhat challenging and should only be attempted if you have the right vehicle and some off roading experience. This trail can easily be done on foot also, so if your vehicle is not equipped, you can still do the series (a full trail description is included below).

Cache Information
This cache is located next to the section of the trail know as the rock garden. You will understand the name once you get there. If you are having trouble getting through this section of the trail, you should probably turn around because the trail gets more difficult.

RM Off Road Series #14 Compete Cache Listing

1. Air Down
2. Rock Garden
3. Rock Pile
4. Whales Tail
5. The Stairs
6. The Chutes
7. Got View ?


Trail Information

Rating/Description
Chinaman Gulch trail is one of the premier difficult trails in Colorado
. Because of the relatively low elevation of this trail (7,832 to 8,904 feet), it can typically be run very early and very late in the season when all of the higher trails are closed or impassable because of snow. If you are up for a bit of a challenge and want to test your vehicle, this trail is a good one to do and it's a blast. It has many rocky areas to negotiate and numerous named obstacles. From the staging area, the trail runs for approximately 1.7 miles before you reach "the loop". You should turn right to run the loop in the recommended counterclockwise direction, returning back to the same point after completing the loop. After completing the loop, you will return the way you came in by going back down the trail along the same 1.7 mile stretch.

This trail is rated difficult and many of the obstacles do not have a bypass so you must negotiate them. It is rated a 4 (easiest routes) to 7 (most difficult routes) out of 10 on the traildamage website. Team Red Rubicon members believe that the trail should be rated more like a 6-8. Disclaimer: You need to decide for yourself if it is safe to make the trip in your vehicle and if you have any doubts, don't do it.

The trail has the following named obstacles (most of the caches in this series are at the obstacles):

Rock Garden - On the way to the loop. Lots of rocks to test your flex and ground clearance.
Rock Pile - Optional pile of rocks (what else) to test your vehicle.
Whales Tail - A small rock waterfall you must climb. Has three approaches that are extreme, difficult and less difficult.
The Stairs - Optional obstacle. Extreme on the left and a bit easier on the right.
The Chutes - A V-notch that is not optional.
Note: You will find a more detailed descriptions of these obstacles on the namesake cache pages (see links above).

To get to the trailhead, head south on CR-301 from US 24 at N38 48.872 W106 05.970. Stay on CR-301 for approximately 1.6 miles and then go left at N38 47.507 W106 05.698. There is a gate at this point that you must open and then close behind you. You will go approximately 0.4 miles to the staging area N38 47.529 W106 05.129, passing through a second gate just before the staging area. From the staging area, you will head almost directly north on the Chinaman Gulch trail. The trailhead is at N38 47.556 W106 05.144. Note: If you head east from the staging area instead of north, you will be headed for Carnage Canyon. Unless you have an extreme rock buggy, stay away from that trail.

Note: All coordinates in the above description are included on the waypoint list below.

Winter Months
As stated previously, because this trail is at a relatively low elevation, it can often be run very early to very late in the season. Chinaman Gulch is generally accessible to off road vehicles from late April though late November although conditions can vary greatly from year to year.

Time/Distance
The trail is 7.3 miles from the start at the staging area until you get back to the staging area. You will spend some time at each obstacle, so the trail will typically take about 5 or 6 hours if you aren't trying to hurry. Make sure you leave some extra time to have lunch on the trail, find the caches and to do some exploring. To reach the trailhead from the Denver area takes about 2.5 to 3 hours so leave the house early.

Trail Waypoints
See waypoint list on the first cache in the series, Air Down.

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 Nearby Caches

GC1QY6B RM ORS #14-01 Air Down (0.42 kms SW)
GC1R8RF The Freeway (0.99 kms N)
GC1QY6K RM ORS #14-03 Rock Pile (1.04 kms NE)
GC1QY6T RM ORS #14-04 Whales Tail (1.39 kms E)
GC1QY72 RM ORS #14-07 Got View ? (1.98 kms NE)

   


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6 Logs: Found it 6  

Found it 04/07/2019 By MAB_Hatter
Nice find easy once you get there

Found it 08/24/2018 By Bluhip
Fun nice hike!

Found it 09/18/2016 By PirateJeep
Yay

Found it 08/07/2016 By Back Country Horsemen
On a borrowed ranch style ATV we had run the loop portion 2 years ago & found all but one of those caches. We did not have enough time to go down & back up the string so I knew this would be a hike. Today was a good day because my huggle who does not like hiking up or down hill was not with me. I hiked up Carnage Canyon 1st & got to watch 4 rock crawlers work their way through some of the tougher obstacles including two on the hill up out of the canyon. I took some photos & video but don't have them loaded on my computer yet. After watching that show this section of the trail seems like a piece of cake!
The cache was in good shape but I think the other log from this year is not valid as it wasn't on the cache log.

Found it 06/04/2016 By joseph421
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Found it 08/12/2015 By jherber
TFTC I was up this way working on a D/T rating I needed and decided to find a few more on my way back down before the sunset. I had started out the day in Vail and was headed back to Woodland Park by the great circle route. I headed west to Glenwood Springs and then south to Aspen before crossing Independence Pass to the east. I was about to add a couple more Colorado counties to the map. After realizing I was going to have a long climb to Red Rubicon Run, I went directly to that cache and then started working my way back down. Thanks for the additional Smiley face on the map. Your cache is in great shape. This was quite an adventure for an old guy who has a wonderful wife with loads of patience waiting in the geomobile.