GC1QY72 Traditional Cache RM ORS #14-07 Got View ?
Type: Traditional | Size: Regular Regular | Difficulty: 2 out of 5 | Terrain: 4 out of 5
By: Team Red Rubicon @ | Hide Date: 05/02/2009 | Status: Available
Country: United States | State: Colorado
Coordinates: N38° 48.329 W106° 03.761 | Last updated: 08/30/2019 | Fav points: 0

Rocky Mountain (RM) Off Road Series (ORS) #14: Chinaman Gulch
A series by Team Red Rubicon members: RocketMan, zoltig, taylorsgeotracker, Red Ruby, Mountain Roamer, n0wae, QueenZelda & Cub Boy, and jpit .

This cache is the last of seven in the #14 series of Rocky Mountain off-road caches located along the difficult Chinaman Gulch Trail. The Chinaman Gulch Trail starts out just south-east of Buena Vista. This trail is somewhat challenging and should only be attempted if you have the right vehicle and some off roading experience. This trail can easily be done on foot also, so if your vehicle is not equipped, you can still do the series (a full trail description is included below).

Cache Information
There a few nice view spots along this trail, but much of the trail is down in the washes and below the trees. The view is awesome as you head down the hill on the back side of the loop. There are some good rocky sections on your way down the hill too so be careful.

RM Off Road Series #14 Compete Cache Listing

1. Air Down
2. Rock Garden
3. Rock Pile
4. Whales Tail
5. The Stairs
6. The Chutes
7. Got View ?


Trail Information

Rating/Description
Chinaman Gulch trail is one of the premier difficult trails in Colorado
. Because of the relatively low elevation of this trail (7,832 to 8,904 feet), it can typically be run very early and very late in the season when all of the higher trails are closed or impassable because of snow. If you are up for a bit of a challenge and want to test your vehicle, this trail is a good one to do and it's a blast. It has many rocky areas to negotiate and numerous named obstacles. From the staging area, the trail runs for approximately 1.7 miles before you reach "the loop". You should turn right to run the loop in the recommended counterclockwise direction, returning back to the same point after completing the loop. After completing the loop, you will return the way you came in by going back down the trail along the same 1.7 mile stretch.

This trail is rated difficult and many of the obstacles do not have a bypass so you must negotiate them. It is rated a 4 (easiest routes) to 7 (most difficult routes) out of 10 on the traildamage website. Team Red Rubicon members believe that the trail should be rated more like a 6-8. Disclaimer: You need to decide for yourself if it is safe to make the trip in your vehicle and if you have any doubts, don't do it.

The trail has the following named obstacles (most of the caches in this series are at the obstacles):

Rock Garden - On the way to the loop. Lots of rocks to test your flex and ground clearance.
Rock Pile - Optional pile of rocks (what else) to test your vehicle.
Whales Tail - A small rock waterfall you must climb. Has three approaches that are extreme, difficult and less difficult.
The Stairs - Optional obstacle. Extreme on the left and a bit easier on the right.
The Chutes - A V-notch that is not optional.
Note: You will find a more detailed descriptions of these obstacles on the namesake cache pages (see links above).

To get to the trailhead, head south on CR-301 from US 24 at N38 48.872 W106 05.970. Stay on CR-301 for approximately 1.6 miles and then go left at N38 47.507 W106 05.698. There is a gate at this point that you must open and then close behind you. You will go approximately 0.4 miles to the staging area N38 47.529 W106 05.129, passing through a second gate just before the staging area. From the staging area, you will head almost directly north on the Chinaman Gulch trail. The trailhead is at N38 47.556 W106 05.144. Note: If you head east from the staging area instead of north, you will be headed for Carnage Canyon. Unless you have an extreme rock buggy, stay away from that trail.

Note: All coordinates in the above description are included on the waypoint list below.

Winter Months
As stated previously, because this trail is at a relatively low elevation, it can often be run very early to very late in the season. Chinaman Gulch is generally accessible to off road vehicles from late April though late November although conditions can vary greatly from year to year.

Time/Distance
The trail is 7.3 miles from the start at the staging area until you get back to the staging area. You will spend some time at each obstacle, so the trail will typically take about 5 or 6 hours if you aren't trying to hurry. Make sure you leave some extra time to have lunch on the trail, find the caches and to do some exploring. To reach the trailhead from the Denver area takes about 2.5 to 3 hours so leave the house early.

Trail Waypoints
See waypoint list on the first cache in the series, Air Down.

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 Nearby Caches

GC1QY70 RM ORS #14-06 The Chutes (0.53 kms E)
GC1QY6T RM ORS #14-04 Whales Tail (0.83 kms S)
GC1QY6W RM ORS #14-05 The Stairs (0.90 kms SE)
GC1QY6K RM ORS #14-03 Rock Pile (1.05 kms W)
GC1R8RF The Freeway (1.25 kms W)

   


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5 Logs: Found it 5  

Found it 07/25/2016 By Outdoor Lover
TFTC cool spot

Found it 09/06/2014 By Back Country Horsemen
Today was my birthday so we were out camping and riding a borrowed ATV around Aspen Ridge & the Chinaman Gulch loop portion only (a bit of a challenge for 2 up on a ranch style ATV). I did end up walking at several spots & we had to put a rope on the front at the Whale's Tail to keep it from tipping over backwards.
Wonder why this cache hasn't been logged in almost 2 years? The others seem to see plenty of action. It was a more difficult find compared to the others-the terrain is just a bit challenging too climbing around but in the end it was right at GZ. Just as we were looking a group of 4 RZRs went zipping by so I'm glad we were off the trail & out of their way.

Found it 11/26/2012 By mud-on-the-tires
Did Chinaman Gulch on foot. Found cache in good condition and enjoyed the great view. Thanks Team Red Rubicon for the seven caches on this challenging route...good job!

Found it 07/10/2012 By <>
Staying in BV for the summer, doing lots of Jeeping. Out for the day catching several along the trails. tftc Starting on July 15th, our club will have a rally with 75+ jeeps roaming around the Buena Vista area. Some of us even geocache.BlackEye

Found it 07/10/2012 By ibgpin
Out with a friend and fellow cacher doing two things we love, 4 wheeling and Geocaching. Thanks for a great series. Last one, looks as if we may get out of here before the rain hits.