GCYY7W Traditional Cache Douglas #22 - Rampart Range B-17
Type: Traditional | Size: Regular Regular | Difficulty: 2 out of 5 | Terrain: 3 out of 5
By: Jim Reeb and Audrey @ | Hide Date: 10/16/2006 | Status: Available
Country: United States | State: Colorado
Coordinates: N39° 11.439 W104° 58.555 | Last updated: 08/30/2019 | Fav points: 3
Dogs  Takes more than an hour  Scenic view  Not Available during winter  No Motorcycles  No Quads  No Off-road vehicles  Medium hike (1km-10km) 

This is number twenty-two in a series of historical points within Douglas County Colorado.


Please read all of the information before starting out. The cache is not at the crash site.
The above coordinates are correct for the cache.

On February 26, 1944 a B-17, flying round-robin training missions from a US Army Air force base in Clovis, NM to Denver, something went wrong quite quickly because no SOS was sent.

CAP data: 39 13N 105 05W 26-FEB-45 B-17 high on west side of valley 10 miles west of Larkspur. 30 to 35 miles NW of COS. 10 passengers, fatal burned. Found May 22, 1945.

Do not use this information to find the crash site - the coordinates are incorrect.

Information is available from the Douglas County News-Press and from TV DC8. These are also incorrect.

Casualties:
2nd Lt. Joseph J. Beeson Jr. of Washington DC
2nd Lt. Harry B. Davis of Philadelphia, PA
2nd Lt. Harry L. Barry of Columbus, OH
2nd Lt. Jack T. Laird of Klamath Falls, ORE
FO Fred Gentry of Decatur, ILL
Cpl. Ralph C. Judah of Iola, KS
Cpl. James F. Perry of Charlotte, N.C.
Cpl. Joseph J. Fendrick of Queens, NY
Cpl. Glenn L. Stutsman of Washington, IO
Cpl. James R. Young of Port Arthur,TX

The intent of this geocache was to place a cache on a hill overlooking the crash site. We probably did that.
Best route : Rampart Range Rd to Forest Rd 327.
Parking coordinates that we used: 39 10.903, -104 59.130.
Going to the cache is easy but returning to the car is uphill - all of the way.

Inside the log book are the coordinates of the crash site. Don't go there - they are wrong.
We thought that they were correct when the cache was placed but we then went to the crash site and did not find any wreckage.
We will update those coordinates when we have better information.
Should you undertake going to the crash site area based on our information or information that you got elsewhere, the terrain is 4.5, believe us.


Thanks Geocaching Colorado for the Geocache of the Month Award, as the second series to win!

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10 Logs: Found it 9  Write note 1  

Found it 08/15/2018 By herndonrd
Out caching with FeartheFish which means me driving his butt all over the place. Trip to the mountains to get the last of the Douglas County series. FR 327 is passable but you need something with high clearance. Fairly easy walk over to the container from parking. Container is in great shape. TFTC!

Found it 06/06/2017 By animjason
Douglas County Historical Series COMPLETE!!! One of the best series out there, thanks for placing and keeping it active.

Found on a camping trip with my scouts. We headed up to Devil's Head on Monday and set up camp. Played some frisbee golf, cards, and did some bouldering. Then we hiked to the fire lookout tower at midnight. They loved this!

On Tuesday, we hiked to this cache after a bumpy drive. Road is pretty rough right now, but the other scout leader had a high clearance SUV. The afternoon storms started coming in a little on our way to the cache. We found the cache in great shape, and got the coordinates from page 4 of the logbook. We made it about halfway to the wreckage when it began to thunder and rain harder. When we saw lightning, we decided it was best to save the wreckage for another time :( better safe and alive than sorry.

Thanks for the adventure! We retired a flag that night that the troop has had for 12 years. They had a great experience, and this cache was a part of it!

FAVE!

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Found it 07/25/2014 By SnailMan1
I started by day off by finding Peak of the Storm at which point I was 1.5 miles for this cache. I considered taking the direct approach to this cache. I decided to not do this so I hiked back towards the car and then turned East once I thought that the terrain wasn't too bad. Good choice! As I approached the cache to the West I saw the deep valley and the large boulder fields I would have had to navigate through if I would have attempted a direct approach. I read the logs and I saw the coordinates to the B-17 crash. I plugged them into my GPS and said no way was I hiking down the hill to see it. I was too tired and still had a long hike back to the car. BTW, somebody signed the long earlier this month, a muggle perhaps since they never claimed credit online. TFTC.

Found it 05/24/2014 By JJ Jeepers
We hiked to the cache and got the plane crash coordinates and hiked down to the crash site. Then we hiked back up and signed the log book on the way out.
Thanks for the cache!

Found it 10/24/2013 By WingsAndTales
This is at least the third crash site that I have seen on the Front Range. They are always interesting but as a pilot they give me the creeps too. It's good that the people who were lost here are remembered by more than just their families even if we don't know a lot of details.

The correct coords for the crash site ARE in the log book at the cache. They were added by a cacher who stopped back at the cache after finding the site. The coords for the crash site took us to the top of the debris field with the memorial shown in numerous pictures a little further down the hill. We used rksters coords for the easiest route to the cache and I highly recommend them. It took us an hour and a half to get to the crash site and back to the cache. I would allow at least 3 hours for the hike all the way out there. I saved our GPS track so you can email me for it if you like. TFTC

Found it 10/24/2013 By estes01
Well we found this cache with no problem, but wish I could say the same for the actual crash site. This was a hellish hike and I am no stranger to challenging hikes. I don't think this is the best place to visit when hiking with a pilot, but WingsAndTales was a good sport and agreed to come with me. In the end, I'm not sure it was worth it, but it was an excellent workout. Thank you for the opportunity.

Write note 06/19/2012 By rkster
Just a little update on my visit to this cache. I Came back with my friends in tow to see the crash site of the B 17. The hike to the cache is a piece of cake compaired to the next leg of the hike. We did follow the ridge line just past the cache then went down, about 800 ft in less than .3 of a mile. The climb out was just as hard as it was going down, lots of downed timber and big rocks. Would I do it again probably not but it was well worth it trip.

Found it 05/29/2012 By rkster
I have been aware of this crash for many years and have wanted to make the trek to the site. With geo caching now in my blood and having a cache to tribute it I made the trip today. My route to the cache was typical just follow the arrow. Some of the time this will work but if you do this on this one you may give up caching. So with this in mind here are a Three way points for the next one to follow. Park at 39 10.919, 104 59.138 (very close to what Jim used to set up this cache). No need to go to the end of the road. 2nd way point 39 10.926, 104 58.868 (follow the ridge). 3rd way point 39 11.185, 104 58.708. The cache is about .3 miles from the 3rd wp to the cache. My gps was within 15 ft of the cache coords, an easy find. Again save your self some pain and follow the ridge but if you don't you will find a very small beautiful stream with lush foliage at the bottom. Would I do it again, You bet but the next time it will be with a couple friends, one who had the opportunity to fly one of the B17s many years ago. TFTC SL

Found it 09/05/2010 By tripman1
This is my last one of the Douglas County series. Thanks Jim for all your help. I really appreciated this series. Thanks again for setting this up. I found the cache and after reading the log decided to go to the crash site. There is no easy way to the site, just difficult and very difficult. It took about three hours round trip. Very sobering experience. Stopped for a quick hike at Devil's head on the way back.
Douglas #22 B-17 Cache

B-17 Crash Site Memorial

Found it 07/31/2010 By swaltalicious
Nasty hike in but found the easier way on the way out like everyone else. Found and took a coin that looked to be a trackable item but through a different website???