GC3YHXC Unknown Cache The Two-Star Difficulty & Terrain Challenge
Type: Mystery | Size: Regular Regular | Difficulty: 5 out of 5 | Terrain: 3 out of 5
By: estes01 @ | Hide Date: 10/12/2012 | Status: Available
Country: United States | State: Colorado
Coordinates: N38° 53.600 W104° 58.300 | Last updated: 08/30/2019 | Fav points: 0
Scenic view  Medium hike (1km-10km) 

This cache is both a puzzle and a challenge and is not at the listed coordinates. Solve the unfortunately necessary puzzle to find the cache. You do not need to meet the challenge to log this cache.


For those of you who are star chasers, here is a challenge similar to ones I saw in two other states. Those challenges require you to have an average difficulty and terrain of 2 or higher. Groundspeak no longer allows challenge caches like this, but I thought it would still be fun to see who could have qualified and provide an incentive for those who might choose to qualify.


Who has met the Challenge?

         Name Find Date Find Count Difficulty Terrain           
TTO2 12/31/2017 16329 2.78 2.79
Mississauga Misfits 07/06/2016 16246 2.02 2.05
allenmabry 12/31/2017 10030 2.16 2.00
ernie66 02/15/2014 9651 2.08 2.00
kimbotjr 05/27/2016 9588 2.05 2.00
huffinpuffin2 07/05/2015 6221 2.20 2.06
Denali41 11/04/2013 5802 2.02 2.00
msstrong 12/17/2017 4753 2.00 2.00
Bunganator 07/12/2014 3969 2.04 2.03
dawnandgary 07/24/2015 3711 2.35 2.46
WingsAndTales 10/21/2012 3541 2.00 2.04
KAJ22 07/24/2015 3508 2.34 2.24
K Trackers 01/31/2014 3000 2.04 2.03
BIGBROTHERBEAR 07/03/2013 2803 2.18 2.25
OMR419 05/14/2014 2761 2.20 2.32
ClaraJean/JLDossett 06/10/2017 2739 2.20 2.16
Kriyacacher 06/19/2018 2654 2.95 2.94
2/3 Marine 11/01/2012 2583 2.10 2.03
kenyansherpa 11/03/2012 1929 2.24 2.40
GoMRT 11/10/2016 1800 2.05 2.00
lesslost2 10/30/2012 1373 2.02 2.32
shrinerr 10/12/2015 1291 2.12 2.09
Path Pacer 07/10/2017 1225 2.06 2.06
icezebra11 09/10/2015 780 2.55 2.72
Winkelried 08/05/2013 448 2.18 2.67
wrensworld 06/28/2013 56 2.32 2.00



On the Statistics tab of your geocaching profile page, the average difficulty and terrain are shown along with a grid which includes your total find count. To participate in the challenge, attach a screen shot of this part of your profile. Participation in the challenge is optional.

The cache is at N A° B.C W D° E.F

A = 22 + 22 - (2+2+2)
B = (2*2*2*2*2*2) - (2*2*2) - 2 - (2/2)
C = ((222 + 22) * 2) + 22 + (2*2) + (2/2)
D = (22*2*2) + (2*2*2*2)
E = (222 + (2*2*2) + 2) / (2*2)
F = (222*2) - 22 + (2/2)

You can check your answers for this puzzle on Geochecker.com.

The cache is located in Pike National Forest. Please use the parking coordinates below to avoid private property. Trail users have permission to use the private driveway to reach the trailhead. Expect a hike of about a mile with 700 feet of elevation gain.

Congratulations to WingsAndTales - FTF!

Additional Waypoints

P23YHXC - Parking Area
N 38° 53.733 W 104° 58.483
Parking area available year-round. Walk up the street to the trailhead.
PK3YHXC - Parking Area (Summer only)
N 38° 53.743 W 104° 58.357
Summer parking area. Reserved for snowplow turnaround in winter.
TH3YHXC - Heizer Trailhead
N 38° 53.705 W 104° 58.358

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 Additional Waypoints (3)

CodeNameTypeCommentsDateCoordinatesDistance
P23YHXCParking Area Parking Area Parking area available year-round. Walk up the street to the trailhead. 02/16/2014 N 38° 53.733 W 104° 58.483 0.36 kms NW 
PK3YHXCParking Area (Summer only) Parking Area Summer parking area. Reserved for snowplow turnaround in winter. 10/12/2012 N 38° 53.743 W 104° 58.357 0.28 kms N 
TH3YHXCHeizer Trailhead Trailhead  10/17/2012 N 38° 53.705 W 104° 58.358 0.21 kms NW 

 Hints

Under a boulder.

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 Logs

7 Logs: Found it 5  Write note 2  

Found it 06/29/2019 By Kerewin0430
Out for a little walk this morning, exploring a trail I hadn't hiked before. My goodness, I can see where the joke about "66 switchbacks" comes from! Cache is in great shape. Please note - the "summer parking" waypoint is no longer a legal place to park (see picture) - good thing the parking at the bottom of the hill is still close!

I don't quite qualify for this challenge yet (2.06/1.97), but maybe someday I'll be able to join the cool kids' club! Thanks for placing this challenge cache.

Found it 05/12/2019 By colorado-rattll
Found about a mile into the climb up the Heizer trail which I had never done before. Great view of Ute pass from here. Even though I prefer the more difficult caches I guess I have too many easy finds as well since I'm at 1.8/1.8.

Found it 06/19/2018 By Kriyacacher
I am visiting the USA because of the birth of my first Grandson in May. He is in Georgia. When I knew that I would be making the trip I decided that I would try and find one of the high average difficulty / terrain challenges you have here in America. The only similar challenge in the UK requires an average of 1.72, so I decided I would take a trip to Colorado to visit the mountains here and also to find this one.
I am not an extreme cacher, but do like the aspect of Geocaching that gives a bit of challenge and adventure. For that reason, a few years into my Geocaching I decided to focus on Geocaches with a total of six or more stars. This has worked well for me in keeping Geocaching fresh and enjoyable.
Over time my average has crept up, and I can see the day in a few years time when I will reach an average of 3 for both Difficulty and Terrain.
Its great to be here in Colorado and taste a little of the wonderful scenery and trekking you have. Big respect to the cachers placing, maintaining and finding Geocaches in high altitude environments. When I set out for this one there were storm clouds to the West, but they passed to the North of the cache without drenching me..
My current Difficulty average is 2.95 and Terrain average 2.94.
It feels good to finally have achieved the goal of signing in at a challenge of this kind, and a pity in a way, that its OK to challenge people to find a lot of caches,, but not OK to challenge people to approach Geocaching in a different way.
I picked up the Travel Bugs and celebrated by resuscitating the multi further up the trail and doing something else recreational that is popular in Colorado.
A big thanks for setting the challenge and playing a part in bringing me to this beautiful part of the world.

Found it 05/05/2018 By OR85OR450
Off The Rails. That's a thing, right? I didn't realize how old this cache is...last year some time or other when it caught my eye. I was rolling happily along filling any date on my stats calendar which lacked ten or more finds. Then I saw this, checked my qualifications, and found I had dropped from a D2.06 or something, to a 1.96 by signing anything I passed by just to get those double-digit dates BlackEye .
My d-d plans then went flying off them rails. I've found it is REALLY hard to raise your D/T avg with 4.5 K finds already.
The CO is quite supportive- said I should work on puzzles; and offered someone close to hand who could help... I quipped I needed to get off me arse and do harder caches BigSmile BigSmile !!
Well at long long last I've crept to a 1.99/2.10 , and it will be no time at all before I punch that last .01. I had a great walk up this way today & am pleased to have signed a bit behind some other cache-crazed types from the Dallas area. Dropped a couple TBs and can't wait to make it an 'official' spirit-of-the-challenge find real soon Smile

ED 05Jul - Whooop !! Is RPieperCO Zeus ??! Well regardless, the power of his/her Power Of Zeuss cache nearby up above Green Mountain Falls was the straw to push my profile stats to finally show D2/T2.1!

Flip-flopping my find here from 'note' to 'found' to celebrate the momentous...blahblahblah/ ohshutup.

Write note 04/21/2018 By nclyga
I have been looking for a challenge like this one. Awesome! I will stop by in July!

Found it 12/31/2017 By TTO2
Signed this one 7/3/2016 after solving the puzzle and making the .2 mile hike to the cache. We wanted to make this one a significant milestone cache when we finally logged the find as our goal has been the essence of this challenge for years and will remain our focus for years to come. We are really sad to see this not a part of current challenges.

Today we end a 1001 day streak of nothing but Mystery/Challenge/Unknown caches that started 6/4/15. We have had a lot of folks watching, many whom are critics, but we did it all within the old and new guidelines, not someone's subjective view based on the "spirit" of the game. I challenge them to do it as it's was not easy. It's also is our 147th DT loop cache. We wanted it to be the 150th but the timing just didn't hit right.

Thank estes01 for keeping this one alive and hope it stays around for many years to come. The hike alone was worth the favorite point.

Write note 12/31/2017 By allenmabry
Woohoo! Happy New Year. I did it, I did it, I FINALLY did it! I logged the find 8/29/2014 , and now I meet the spirit of the challenge with an average 2.16/2 D/T rating. It may not last long, but at the moment I made my goal. What a year. After 10 years of caching, I passed 10,000 finds, 19 D/T loops and (finally) got over 2/2 average. (The CLAPS series in Houston helped immensely.)

By the way, if anyone has a chance to get to Austin, TX for a couple of days, go after "The Nine Princes of Amber" before it is archived in June after 10 years of life. 14 caches with "Trump Cards" to arrange to find the 5/4.5 bonus cache plus another bonus cache. Each of the 14 is a short hike and most have cool views at some point.

Nine Princes of Amber and related caches:
https://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=a914ca40-9930-4ae6-8369-5d1d182b56d6

And here is Soaring Eagle's recommendation for Austin Visitors
https://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=2f12b1be-8838-4c68-9189-147969e77990

Two great night caches. Necropolis has probably the highest favorite points in the state, plus the series I mentioned. Just saying. I spent three days in Austin and had a blast. Still much left to do there...

Hope all is well. We will be in COS/DEN for a brief visit Jan 14-17. Wishing all a safe and happy new year.